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10

The real Google Page Rank is neither what you see nor what you can calculate

I mean it. Really.

Vanessa Fox (ex-googler) explains why there are two Page Ranks, and why the real page rank is not what you see on the toolbar, and why the toolbar PR is irrelevant at least when calculating your SERPs positions.

The two pageranks are –
1 – The toolbar PR (what you and me are allowed to see) and
2 – The internal Google PR (which seems to be more a mystery)

Okay, I know that both you and me knew about this, but let’s discuss this now.
Because as we get more explanations from googlers and ex-googlers on this, things are only getting more intriguing.

google-pagerank Image courtesy – Hongkiat

Question – If there are two page ranks and the toolbar page rank is not the real page rank, why is it there out in public, in the first place?

Possible answer from Google – Because we have a algorithm in place which calculates the authority and link value of a website purely based on the number of inlinks it has.

My reply (possibly) – Fine – But why don’t you simply put the “real pagerank” on the toolbar ? Wouldn’t that help the webmasters and public both equally in “grading” websites? And since the real pagerank isn’t completely based on links, there is no question of SEO’s becoming successful in manipulating it, even if they try.

I’m inclined to believe that the “real pagerank” is non-existent. Of course, we all know that Google has it’s n-number of factors that helps it in “grading” a website, but that isn’t anything close to page rank, it’s an algo more complex.

Google pagerank, if I’m not mistaken is best described as below.

PageRank reflects Google’s view of the importance of web pages by considering more than 500 million variables and 2 billion terms. Pages that Google believe are important pages receive a higher PageRank and are more likely to appear at the top of the search results.

So…..I don’t think there should be even be a case of internal/toolbar pagerank.

If there is at all a Page Rank, why can’t it be public ?

Note: I’m not implying that Google Page Rank is the sole reason for a websites SERPs rank, but trying to clear the ambiguity here between the different versions of Page Ranks and the reasons to why they exist.

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  1. Anish K.SNo Gravatar

    I didn’t think Google Pr is the Last term/word to Calculate a Site Popularity. I have seen PR or 5,6 for some sites, but the check their popularity in Alexa not showing the sites in the 100000 List.

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  2. Pavan KumarNo Gravatar

    I guess that would be true… As we can see a PR0 no backlink page[fresh new] from techcrunch or webmaster forum is ranked top serp, but even a page with .edu backlink may rank below that. All importance is given for domain authority…

    My guess is that it has internal page rank which is updated probably every second and is different from PR we can see on toolbar or other tools.

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  3. SpeedNo Gravatar

    I confused with Google PR…

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  4. VipeyNo Gravatar

    Pr is a hugely controversial and complicated subject, i think people focus on it to much, i have seen sites with PR1 rank very high for competitive keyphrases so i dont tend to put to much importance on it, Google will always keep us guessing.

    Reply

  5. sreehuNo Gravatar

    is the page rank we see on google toolbar something near to orginal?!

    Reply

  6. Anish K.SNo Gravatar

    I think Now we have got a chance to discuss about Google PR seriously, let’s hope more discussion will come on it.

    Reply

  7. Dennis EdellNo Gravatar

    I don’t even worry over it. I do what I do, I get what I get and my traffic goes up.

    Reply

  8. Pravish ThomasNo Gravatar

    Google page rank – What shows on the toolbar is an idea of links pointing to the page.
    Actually PR should not be underestimated though Latest reports do say Page Rank is not considered important.

    To be frank the links pointing to the site must be equally relevant to ur site for example : If i have an Auto site then i should get some Pr 2 or Pr 3 links which should be related to Auto industry itself. Now to gain deep Page rank relevancy in Auto itself there are deep categories: Auto parts, Auto clubs etc,,,, So if u get links from the most relevant categories having PR1-2 it would be added benefit as u get relevant Traffic + PR

    Tat’s the reason PR should not be underestimated

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  9. Rob AbdulNo Gravatar

    @Pavan, my brother, you have said the magic words ” domain authority”. That is it.

    Not PR, but domain authority is the answer.

    Reply

  10. 5 Reasons why Google PageRank sucks (and is no more a valid metric) ! | Peer Marketing Group

    [...] The real Google Page Rank is neither what you see nor what you can calculate [...]





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